tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post4927569713569647682..comments2022-04-02T06:56:36.533-07:00Comments on froliz's unspeakable vanguard-like thing: Blue Flame LiberatorsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01663242729044110837noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-76369695962690912692014-11-14T14:01:43.360-08:002014-11-14T14:01:43.360-08:00I get that you can do neat things with stands and ...I get that you can do neat things with stands and when they shine. I'm just wondering about this:<br /><br />"4/8 stand/crit will still function the same way and force you into that R>V>R attack pattern, but you will be less likely to see that stand (6 stands is literally 150% of 4 4 stands), and you'll be seeing crits as often as a common 4/8 draw/crit setup"<br /><br />How much less likely? And with your reasoning, why not go with 7S/5C? That's even more likely to get a stand effect while still retaining crits.ozero91https://www.blogger.com/profile/15383910270101919080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-14647997284777026802014-11-14T01:36:07.927-08:002014-11-14T01:36:07.927-08:00For one, it's the consistency. As long as you ...For one, it's the consistency. As long as you mix Stands and Crits, you will need to do a R>V>R attack pattern to guarantee not waste triggers, even if it's just 1 stand trigger. <br /><br />4/8 stand/crit will still function the same way and force you into that R>V>R attack pattern, but you will be less likely to see that stand (6 stands is literally 150% of 4 4 stands), and you'll be seeing crits as often as a common 4/8 draw/crit setup<br /><br />a 6/6 split still uses the same attack pattern, and it still maintains the threat of a critical trigger on the VG to highly discourage your opponent in just letting the VG through (especially for this deck, VGs with built-in extra crits).<br /><br />Stands also are much more flexible and devastating the later in the game.<br /><br />In general, crits are much stronger early and mid game, and stands are much stronger later in the game.<br /><br />By flexible and being stronger in the late game, for example, imagine you have a near full or full field where you can attack 3 times this turn. You first swing with a RG (can be a loner RG). You then swing with a VG and checks a Stand. Now you have 2 options: 1.) stand the rested RG and pass the power to that RG, or 2.) stand the rested RG and pass the power to the other column that hasn't attacked yet. <br /><br />Option 1 will give you an additional 2-stage attack (10k shield) or a 1 stage attack (5k shield) depending on what you stand (9k or 11k+).<br /><br />Option 2 will give you an additional 1-stage attack or an equivalent of 1-stage attack as long as the stand target can kill something like an interceptor, and boost your unused column to a 3-stage attack. When your opponent is sitting on 5 damage, that's 1 additional card forced out than a crit trigger (similar to the good ol' Luquier Reverse logic)<br /><br />Also keep in mind, interceptors can guard against ProGlare, so you actually will want a RG to kill their RG before dropping your 2-crit-26~31k-glory-attack-of-doom on your opponent fairly often naturally as well.<br /><br /><br />Running more crits have its merits, aka higher chance at sacking kills for cheap quick wins. Do keep in mind however that a 6/6 split is not outright giving up in running crit triggers, so it still maintains that ability to crit on 3 damage fairly often as a 6/6 split is still a fairly high crit concentration. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08561230803208162155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-82463062866745467422014-11-13T18:44:14.099-08:002014-11-13T18:44:14.099-08:00Is there a reason for running 6Crit/2Stand/4Catchg...Is there a reason for running 6Crit/2Stand/4Catchgal rather than 8Crit/4Catchgal?<br /><br />Interesting use of "proc." I guess it isn't too much of a stretch to consider a deck "programmed."ozero91https://www.blogger.com/profile/15383910270101919080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-25799056914068737982014-10-19T18:30:55.520-07:002014-10-19T18:30:55.520-07:00Hmm, I see
Oh yeah, I want to say thanks to you f...Hmm, I see<br /><br />Oh yeah, I want to say thanks to you for making this blog which is mainly for ST at first<br /><br />So I went to my regional qualifier for the WCS 2014 with my ST deck. I didn't win, or made it to the top 8 unfortunately. But I still managed to last pretty long thanks to what I learned from this blog. Though I didn't win, I feel proud because this is actually my first VG tournament and I initially came because of the freebies and thinking I'd drop out immediately anyway, but yeah. I kept winning until nouvelle and CBD cut me off<br /><br />So yeah I'd just like to say, thank you so much!<br />I still need to get better at playing the deck though, but I realized pale moon really is an awesome clan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16624721438697120232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-34352044143903704042014-10-19T12:38:08.312-07:002014-10-19T12:38:08.312-07:00lol I didn't die, just I've been really bu...lol I didn't die, just I've been really busy with work so there's that XD<br /><br />as with a Silver Thorn/Pale Moon with Cracking Beast Tamer.. nope, I'll not be going over that. The reason is the Legion itself, while isn't terrible, isn't good enough to really improve anything. If she and her mate had Silver Thorn in her name, then she'd been a decent addition to Silver Thorn. But she doesn't (meaning whatever you gain pretty much gets negated by the inability for it to fully utilize the ST backbone support), and her skill itself is really isn't near strong enough to carry the old school Pale Moon support when you have decks out there that get +1s for free or for cheap with vanguards that have much higher kill potential.<br /><br />Overall, she's a usable card, but not a card that really brings much (or enough) to the table.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08561230803208162155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3217844224595941618.post-13629505652617610612014-10-19T06:00:22.721-07:002014-10-19T06:00:22.721-07:00Froliz, will you be doing a silver thorn deck, or ...Froliz, will you be doing a silver thorn deck, or pale moon in general revolving around the promo legion?<br /><br />P.S I thought you died or somethingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16624721438697120232noreply@blogger.com